I do hope for one thing. Hope they dont abandon TW Brit Saga. Why? Because the consumer has the expectations that they will EVENTUALLY fix there problem and most likey apologize. It would be rude, and bad for them if they abandon it. Its called consumer backlash.
I am most curious if any of these mechanics will be introduced in the Three kingdoms TW or will it be something different. I do recommend anyone to research the period, and for your enjoyment to watch "War of the Three Kingdoms" show. I could say for one that era it was chaos, and man power was all over the place. I would also like to add it would benifit CA to put out more polls for the consumer on favoring certain mechanics so that the consumer has a good understanding.

“Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.” Wrote George Horne

@tresace - yes saddly ;)

The state of TW Saga is like buying an expensive phone an amazing exterior, but cheap hardware. The product is suppose to be bug free a clean product, but its not. The only way to fix there problem that they started is for use to speak or minds, or have them suffer from us not purchasing any more of there products. I speak for myself not the community but some may agree with me. This could be Sega's fault or CA's. I dont know, but its someones fault not the community or me. I have been a TW consumer since the first Shogun up to this point. Personally what infuriates me more is low content DLC's. I would rather see an entire expansion
like FOTS where the content maybe worth the cost of my time in playing.

*Update*

I testet Attila and after 157hrs of chickenfights its still broken in many aspects - combat feels and plays bad not to mention the vanilla balance. Saddly they failed us .. only one hope remains : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?682661-MOD-Warriors-of-Faith-Ancient-Empires-Attila-Combat-Overhaul tbd..

totalwar games are no longer the same they have lost the passion and are greedy little ♥♥♥♥♥.

CA's return to antiquity has been marked far more by King Midas style greed than Augustan greatness. Rome 2 gave me the sense of being cobbled together and incomplete, and having to download factions that were already in the game seriously turned me off.

It's like buying a $5 cheeseburger at a restaurant you know has a great reputation, and having it delivered to you...only the management put a metal box around the cheese that you have to pay an extra $1 to unlock, and oh look, they're charging you another dollar for the plate. Want salt? Want pepper? $.50 each, and you have to pay to eat the lettuce on the burger too.

Before you just paid $5 and got to just eat the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ burger, and maybe you'd get adventurous and pay another $1 for a side of fries as an expansion pack. Nowadays...Nope. You're paying $5 for the burger to be set before you and $1 for each damn bite you take.

If they were selling propper products I would even pay them 100$ for their game but they go with selling betas, selling downloadable content and on the other side less expensive game production resulting in broken codes .. they are selling crap in a good name in a way I can't support!

ok.differents opinions here,but you guys are rigth,it is sad to sell a broken game i love total war games i play them for years and i still want to play them at the moment for me i cant play
and enjoy Attila total war.but it is a pitty that no other company offers the same kind of game and it is here were CA have the control.now every thing is about money ...ok CA needs our money to give as the games we want(but not alfa,betas,broken or else)the pointe is that if they had same other game producers company making this games they would not dare to present as with this crap.i do not trust them agein to buy more total war (i lost 29.99£ in a piece of plastic).

Yeah just some attention trolls here... By free testing I meant costumers who test unfinished games for free (like rome 2 for instance) and pay for it and seriously I played it - it sucks like rome 2 still broken.. and I guess nope sry no good job on CA here and hell no its just standalone because their max profit policy..and by the way ppl still play this because there simply is no alternative...

Seriously play Attila! I'm telling you the things you are mentioning have been either fixed or greatly improved plus all the new features. This is no broken reskin. Sorry but that is just false. CA did a good job with this release minus some bugs and wonky AI (Rarely). After a few months of patching and DLC Attila will be the best Total War since Medieval II. Don't take this personal I'm just trying to explain that Attila is not nearly as bad as you two are trying to make it out to be. Try it. It's probably 25$ on king..giun. Then come back and complain and I will happily debate with you if you still think Attila is worse than shogun II, empire, medieval and Rome II and Rome I.

"After a lot of patching and [b} free testing they sold us at least a polished version - Napoleon. [/b]
Now they are selling us a broken product (Rome II) as standalone (Attila) without fixing it right."

Ah here is where the true genius comes out. After a lot of FREE patching Rome II is now a great game. Which is why so many people still play it. So they release a standalone for $40, with at least 20 new or greatly improved features, better AI, a new time period and an EVEN better mod kit than Rome II had. Basically you have no idea wtf you are talking about because all you just watched "reynold sanitys" youtube videos talking shiz about the warscape engine. I'm sure you loved shogun 2 even though it had expensive DLC as well. By the way, CA dropped a huge patch the same time they dropped the 1st DLC so your wrong about them releasing DLC before patching.

Yes I know ...so what?

Wtf... do you even know the difference between Sega and CA? Or the difference between a dev and a publisher? This group is plain out stupid...

excuse me Glob glitches are not "ironed out" they still exist. The glitches are a result of the warscape engine which is almost 10 years old. How do they go from Shogun2 which in the end was extremely polished to Attila. They took a different approach to combat which acuatlly played to the strengths of Warscape the 1v1 duel type battle. In Rome2 mass infantry mobs doesnt work well it like it did in Med2 because they are forcing the engine ignore its coding which creates anomolies like unit flying in the air then rubberbanding back, unit in full charge stopping on a dime when they reach their target and calvary charges that look limp wristed.
those are just a few examples, thats not including Sega business practices that makes the flaws almost unforgivable. It should be fix the game then release dlcs not the other way around.

"Also your group message is very contradictory. You want to save the TW series by getting everyone to stop buying it? " Yes if sales go down just a little they would work their asses of to get this game working...at least basemodding would be possible

"Think about if CA dissapeared tomorrow. How long would it take for another game like the TW series to pop up?" One Kickstarter campaign...

Also your group message is very contradictory. You want to save the TW series by getting everyone to stop buying it?? That would not make them rethink their business strategy they would abandon it all together and move on to games like alien isolation. Hopefully, the next TW game will have a New Engine designed solely around Melee combat, no locked on attack annimations, with ranged combat secondary.

sorry posted those backwards lol read the bottom one first then the top is continuation

How long would it take to pop up WITHOUT a shiz load of glitches which CA has mostly ironed out in Attila?

I want another competitor to step into the ring honestly so CA doesn't have this monopoly over grand-battle strat games but as far as I know theres nothing in the works.

I'de rather have to pay for the 10% of the game cut out of release through DLC than wait god knows how long for another game like TW to come around. You can call me a fanboy or whatever but this is my favorite franchise and if it dies where do you and I turn to????

I get where you are coming from homie. I really do. I hated Rome 2 at launch but still put a lot of hours into it because I love total war. It IS THE ONLY strategy game like this on the market sadly. If this series fails there goes the chance of having any grand strategy game with a very solid campaign map and huge battlemap fights with 1k+ units for probably 3-5 years. I don't like the DLC policy but I still buy them to support CA because they make the best all in one strategy games on the market.

Think about if CA dissapeared tomorrow. How long would it take for another game like the TW series to pop up? How long would it take to pop up WITHOUT a shiz load of glitches which CA has mostly ironed out in Attila?

Wow they deleted my post linked to this Group ...