Originally posted by huu:

Interesting change to how VAC bans are displayed for Source Engine games

Previously, if you were banned by VAC in any of these games:
- Team Fortress 2
- Counter-Strike: Source
- Day of Defeat: Source
- Half-Life 2: Deathmatch

The VAC ban page would show you as being banned in each of these games, all attributed to 1 VAC ban.

However, recently, Valve has changed as to how the VAC bans themselves are displayed. Now, it shows only the one game that you cheated in and got VAC banned in. The account I'm posting from is actually VAC banned in Source games.[files.catbox.moe]

With this change, I actually had assumed that the account I am on is able to play games where cheating didn't occur, so I tested it out with Counter-Strike: Source.

The result? Still unable to play Counter-Strike: Source, despite the VAC ban page not displaying me as VAC banned from Counter-Strike: Source.[files.catbox.moe]

I did attempt to bring this up to Steam Support and ask them why did they change it, only to...talk to a brick wall, so to speak. They for some reason assumed I was talking about Counter-Strike 2 (no I wasn't) and gave me vague responses like "your VAC ban is applied correctly", even though...that wasn't what I was asking. So that went absolutely nowhere.

Basically - if you cheated in TF2, CSS, DoD:S or HL2DM but no longer see the VAC bans for the other games on your support page, the ban still applies and you are not able to play it.

I'm just curious why Valve is now misleading users with this. Wasn't the case in the past.

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by huu:

Interesting change to how VAC bans are displayed for Source Engine games

Previously, if you were banned by VAC in any of these games:
- Team Fortress 2
- Counter-Strike: Source
- Day of Defeat: Source
- Half-Life 2: Deathmatch

The VAC ban page would show you as being banned in each of these games, all attributed to 1 VAC ban.

However, recently, Valve has changed as to how the VAC bans themselves are displayed. Now, it shows only the one game that you cheated in and got VAC banned in. The account I'm posting from is actually VAC banned in Source games.[files.catbox.moe]

With this change, I actually had assumed that the account I am on is able to play games where cheating didn't occur, so I tested it out with Counter-Strike: Source.

The result? Still unable to play Counter-Strike: Source, despite the VAC ban page not displaying me as VAC banned from Counter-Strike: Source.[files.catbox.moe]

I did attempt to bring this up to Steam Support and ask them why did they change it, only to...talk to a brick wall, so to speak. They for some reason assumed I was talking about Counter-Strike 2 (no I wasn't) and gave me vague responses like "your VAC ban is applied correctly", even though...that wasn't what I was asking. So that went absolutely nowhere.

Basically - if you cheated in TF2, CSS, DoD:S or HL2DM but no longer see the VAC bans for the other games on your support page, the ban still applies and you are not able to play it.

I'm just curious why Valve is now misleading users with this. Wasn't the case in the past.

Because it is simpler to leave that information, long as it is, for the official kb article...

https://eo.steamhost.cc/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29#eligible

:nkCool:

Originally posted by huu:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Because it is simpler to leave that information, long as it is, for the official kb article...

https://eo.steamhost.cc/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29#eligible

Okay but this leads to a lot of confusion to end-users though. Not everyone is necessarily going to go click on that article. Those that do - cool. But I don't understand the need from Valve to remove that information from being shown to the user upfront. It makes no sense to me personally.

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by huu:

Okay but this leads to a lot of confusion to end-users though. Not everyone is necessarily going to go click on that article. Those that do - cool. But I don't understand the need from Valve to remove that information from being shown to the user upfront. It makes no sense to me personally.

That article should be directly linked on the ban page.

https://eo.steamhost.cc/help_steampowered_com/en/wizard/VacBans

:nkCool:

Originally posted by huu:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

That article should be directly linked on the ban page.

https://eo.steamhost.cc/help_steampowered_com/en/wizard/VacBans

Okay but you're forgetting that a majority of people will not click that and assume their bans have been removed for those other games, which they are not.

I don't understand Valve's reasoning for removing that from being shown upfront so my point stands.

Originally posted by A Clöckwork Orange:

It’s not Steam’s responsibility to ensure that people read the TOS or pinned articles that they provide. The point is they provide it, if people refuse to read it that’s on them

Originally posted by huu:

Originally posted by A Clöckwork Orange:

It’s not Steam’s responsibility to ensure that people read the TOS or pinned articles that they provide. The point is they provide it, if people refuse to read it that’s on them

This does not answer why they did show this information in the past but now do not.

Originally posted by A Clöckwork Orange:

Originally posted by huu:

This does not answer why they did show this information in the past but now do not.

There is a support page that explains this still. But you have to go read it.

https://eo.steamhost.cc/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29

Originally posted by huu:

Originally posted by A Clöckwork Orange:

There is a support page that explains this still. But you have to go read it.

https://eo.steamhost.cc/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29

And this goes back to the fact that the average user won't read, which baffles my why Valve just removed it from being shown upfront, despite this information being shown to the user upfront in the not-so-distant past. Back to square one with this, it seems.

Originally posted by huu:

Originally posted by A Clöckwork Orange:

There is a support page that explains this still. But you have to go read it.

https://eo.steamhost.cc/help_steampowered_com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29

And this goes back to the fact that the average user won't read, which baffles my why Valve just removed it from being shown upfront, despite this information being shown to the user upfront in the not-so-distant past. Back to square one with this, it seems.

Originally posted by Nightm4re:

Originally posted by huu:

And this goes back to the fact that the average user won't read, which baffles my why Valve just removed it from being shown upfront, despite this information being shown to the user upfront in the not-so-distant past. Back to square one with this, it seems.

you're a real piece of work aren't you? like a broken record