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The Divided States Of America
So who else thinks this whole MAGA/Liberal division in the United States is turning a once great nation into the Divided States of America?

Will they recover from it? Will it become a civil war? Are we all - non US countries - destined to follow this extraordinary destructive path? Do you think the United States can bury the hatchet and start acting like a nation united or will it be empire destroying?

Could it become world destroying?

I am genuinely perplexed at the non-negotiating ideological positions people are taking on both sides, where both sides would rather see their nation at odds, to the point of destruction, than do anything to prevent it.

Please try and keep it civil and intelligent. I want your personal analysis, not vitriolic Trump or lefty bashing for the sake of it. We can all see what the problem is, how do they get out of it? Can they?
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Hard to connect with traitors who tried to end democracy who are now minimizing pedophilia to prop up their dementia-riddled leader.
money is dividing people into a caste system and there is nothing we can do to stop it
the world has too much people, at some point something bad is gonna happen
Is that what the TV told you? Lmao.
Originally posted by Sistermatic™:
Will they recover from it?

Unlikely. I'm not a historian so I can't say when the political system turned partisan, but the US has basically been split into 2 opposing tribes for a while. And even though their more democratic-ish aligned party tries to keep the country afloat, their opponents are primarily just working to undo whatever progress has been made to sink the ship faster.
I think all of this is made up by my subconscious, at least partly. It's scripted. Right down to your use of the phrase "once great nation".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpckthij5GM

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:
Is that what the TV told you? Lmao.
Hadn't seen this reply yet either.

This song is even 6 minutes, and I'm the 6th reply.
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Originally posted by volusat:
money is dividing people into a caste system and there is nothing we can do to stop it
This one is interesting in that 'the caste system' occurs in all nations, but not all nations have the same level of division.

In fact, as an outside observer, most division I see is people mimicing issues out of the United States, rather than localised issues. I often see people identify as 'MAGA' when they live in Europe or Australia etc.

We even have politicians here in Australia who literally wear MAGA hats and chant the slogans, when the 'A' is not for 'Australia'.
>Australia
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I know how to fix it.... more mass immigration! :steamhappy:
Originally posted by Kargor:
Originally posted by Sistermatic™:
Will they recover from it?

Unlikely. I'm not a historian so I can't say when the political system turned partisan, but the US has basically been split into 2 opposing tribes for a while. And even though their more democratic-ish aligned party tries to keep the country afloat, their opponents are primarily just working to undo whatever progress has been made to sink the ship faster.
If you get the chance, there are a myriad of books on this. One I can recommend is "The Forever War: America's Unending Conflict with Itself" by Nick Bryant.

Discusses the path to today as being a path decades in the making. It's an eye opener. Many of the players in today's 'conflict' have been at it a long time.

Originally posted by Acyoax:
Right down to your use of the phrase "once great nation".
Going to admit, didn't realise my use of the past tense on that one. I blame Sigmund.
Originally posted by Sistermatic™:
Going to admit, didn't realise my use of the past tense on that one. I blame Sigmund.
Who was Austrian.... like the band mind in a box.
maga conservatives werent the ones who divided america.

the division began when the woke left pushed identity politics down everyone's throats. before 2012 everyone was an american first. race, gender, political views were irrelevant and secondary to someone's identity
Originally posted by 76561198758977062:
maga conservatives werent the ones who divided america.

the division began when the woke left pushed identity politics down everyone's throats. before 2012 everyone was an american first. race, gender, political views were irrelevant and secondary to someone's identity

Cultural marxism
There must always be a victim and an oppressor
Originally posted by 76561198758977062:
maga conservatives werent the ones who divided america.

the division began when the woke left pushed identity politics down everyone's throats. before 2012 everyone was an american first. race, gender, political views were irrelevant and secondary to someone's identity
Your belief that the US was somehow united as a neutral gender, race and politics nation before 'the Libs' showed up is not even remotely correct.

Just to name a couple of specific events involving race and gender, Watts Riots (1960s) and Suffragettes (19th Amendment - 1920) with political views shaped if not cemented as far back as the Civil War. Fair to say, today's events are simply a culmination.

I also requested you keep the blame game slogans and jingoism out of it. I don't care who is 'at fault', the question is what can be done about it?
YEAH WHATEVER
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