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Which VR Should I Purchase (SOLVED)
I've had the Steam VR HeadSet and HandSets for about 2 or 3 years... and was very happy with it. (Note: It was my first VR Experience, and I'm loving it.) However... I'm beginning to have problems with it, so it's time to purchase a new one. I've been doing a bit of research, and it seems like the Meta-Quest 3 is the one to buy... or 'Maybe' Meta-Quest 3S.

I'd love to hear a few thoughts on this, as well as any other suggestions on others which I may wish to consider, including if I should consider purchasing another Steam VR Set-Up. I know quality is important, but I'm not really picky when it comes to Sound or Graphics... I'm more interested in Game compatibility, gear quality and Ease of Use. And with Compatibility; that many games recognize it... and Steam doesn't have an issue with it. (i.e., I just wanna play my games) ;)

Advanced Thanx for any/all helpful Tips, Info and/or Advice!!!
Last edited by Skorne Tet'Zu; 21 Oct @ 6:44pm
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tyl0413 20 Aug @ 6:35pm 
Not Quest if you don't wanna tear all your hair out with getting it connected to PC and having constant disconnects mid game. Maybe you should say what you have rn and what issues so that maybe someone can suggest fixes than buy a new headset for no good reason.
The main problem (maybe only real problem) is the HeadSet 'Sometimes' won't connect or function. (Kind of like right now). When I run SteamVR, one of the following will occur:

1) HeadSet Connects and Comes on.
2) HeadSet Comes on, but doesn't connect.
3) HeadSet Connects, but doesn't not come on.
4) HeadSet Doesn't Connect or Come On.

Note: 'HeadSet On' means it lights up, and I can see images through it. HeadSet Connects includes VR Home on my monitor and the Panel shows Connected. Sometimes (like with number 3) The HeadSet does not come on, but I am in the VR Home, and as I move the HeadSet around it moves in the VRHome, but again... No lights, and you can't see anything through them.

Most times the fix (Use to be) Restart SteamVR... but lately the only fix has been to unplug the HeadSet from power, and plug it back in. Sadly... today I've done that about a dozen times, and this time it's not working. I'm sometimes connecting, but haven't got the HeatSet to come on.
WarBucks 20 Aug @ 7:04pm 
I really like the psvr2. Its wired only which is a negative, but the oled screen is lovely. Really looking forward to HDR and eye tracking. Its been really solid stability wise, especially compared to the trashheap that was the Reverb G2 WMR garbage

The Quests are at the mercy of your wifi router/AP set ups. I tell people make your wifi a set channel, and split the bands into seperate networks.

A lot of wifi problems are the routers jumping channels because all the other nearby routers are jumping channels too.

That and older devices forcing wifi 6 routers into wifi 4 or 5 mode
Last edited by WarBucks; 20 Aug @ 7:05pm
tyl0413 20 Aug @ 7:32pm 
Originally posted by Skorne Tet'Zu:
The main problem (maybe only real problem) is the HeadSet 'Sometimes' won't connect or function. (Kind of like right now). When I run SteamVR, one of the following will occur:

1) HeadSet Connects and Comes on.
2) HeadSet Comes on, but doesn't connect.
3) HeadSet Connects, but doesn't not come on.
4) HeadSet Doesn't Connect or Come On.

Note: 'HeadSet On' means it lights up, and I can see images through it. HeadSet Connects includes VR Home on my monitor and the Panel shows Connected. Sometimes (like with number 3) The HeadSet does not come on, but I am in the VR Home, and as I move the HeadSet around it moves in the VRHome, but again... No lights, and you can't see anything through them.

Most times the fix (Use to be) Restart SteamVR... but lately the only fix has been to unplug the HeadSet from power, and plug it back in. Sadly... today I've done that about a dozen times, and this time it's not working. I'm sometimes connecting, but haven't got the HeatSet to come on.
and which headset is this? Index/Vive?

Originally posted by WarBucks:
I really like the psvr2. Its wired only which is a negative, but the oled screen is lovely. Really looking forward to HDR and eye tracking. Its been really solid stability wise, especially compared to the trashheap that was the Reverb G2 WMR garbage

The Quests are at the mercy of your wifi router/AP set ups. I tell people make your wifi a set channel, and split the bands into seperate networks.

A lot of wifi problems are the routers jumping channels because all the other nearby routers are jumping channels too.

That and older devices forcing wifi 6 routers into wifi 4 or 5 mode
PSVR2 looks pretty good and its well priced too except the stupid PC adapter doesn't seem to be sold in my country, or I haven't found it yet at least.
Quest is garbage even with the Link cable, constant disconnects mid game, hard time connecting to PC, etc, supposedly newer updates broke it even further, I don't update for a reason.
Raell 20 Aug @ 8:31pm 
Originally posted by tyl0413:
Not Quest if you don't wanna tear all your hair out with getting it connected to PC and having constant disconnects mid game. Maybe you should say what you have rn and what issues so that maybe someone can suggest fixes than buy a new headset for no good reason.

So you're applying your own personal experience to every single person who has a Quest? Weird logic... I've had no issues.
Originally posted by WarBucks:
I really like the psvr2. Its wired only which is a negative, but the oled screen is lovely. Really looking forward to HDR and eye tracking. Its been really solid stability wise, especially compared to the trashheap that was the Reverb G2 WMR garbage

The Quests are at the mercy of your wifi router/AP set ups. I tell people make your wifi a set channel, and split the bands into seperate networks.

A lot of wifi problems are the routers jumping channels because all the other nearby routers are jumping channels too.

That and older devices forcing wifi 6 routers into wifi 4 or 5 mode

Thanx for the Info... just a couple of Follow-Up Questions:

Probably a silly question, but is PSVR2 for PS3s? I'm playing on a computer.

Also... when you say Quest is at the Mercy of WiFi... what does that mean? I have to connect to my games on my computer via WiFi with Quest? I currently have lousy WiFi, however...it's getting updated Friday (New Provider) @500mb/s (I believe)... but I can go upto 1g/s if necessary.
WarBucks 21 Aug @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by Skorne Tet'Zu:
Originally posted by WarBucks:
I really like the psvr2. Its wired only which is a negative, but the oled screen is lovely. Really looking forward to HDR and eye tracking. Its been really solid stability wise, especially compared to the trashheap that was the Reverb G2 WMR garbage

The Quests are at the mercy of your wifi router/AP set ups. I tell people make your wifi a set channel, and split the bands into seperate networks.

A lot of wifi problems are the routers jumping channels because all the other nearby routers are jumping channels too.

That and older devices forcing wifi 6 routers into wifi 4 or 5 mode

Thanx for the Info... just a couple of Follow-Up Questions:

Probably a silly question, but is PSVR2 for PS3s? I'm playing on a computer.

Also... when you say Quest is at the Mercy of WiFi... what does that mean? I have to connect to my games on my computer via WiFi with Quest? I currently have lousy WiFi, however...it's getting updated Friday (New Provider) @500mb/s (I believe)... but I can go upto 1g/s if necessary.

The psvr2 is for the ps5 yes, but they introduced steamvr support this year. The headset has a "virtuallink" connection that hooks into an adapter that hooks into a display port.

VirtualLink is a type of USB-C port that was made for vr headsets for certain generation of video cards. I know the nvidia 2080 series had the port but that was it. everyone else needs the adapter.

When i say the mercy of the wifi, i mean the network connection of the router to the PC and the Quest. If say the wifi router if far away, or the signal is bad for some other reason (ex. concrete walls), then any headset like the quest would have trouble with PCVR.

But the good news is the quest does have a hardwired mode you could use directly to the computer with USB. But then youd be tethered and a PSVR2 might be a better option.

Personally i like the quest 3 or 3s thats the one id get if you use their storefront or have a meta account already
alienux 21 Aug @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by Skorne Tet'Zu:
Originally posted by WarBucks:
I really like the psvr2. Its wired only which is a negative, but the oled screen is lovely. Really looking forward to HDR and eye tracking. Its been really solid stability wise, especially compared to the trashheap that was the Reverb G2 WMR garbage

The Quests are at the mercy of your wifi router/AP set ups. I tell people make your wifi a set channel, and split the bands into seperate networks.

A lot of wifi problems are the routers jumping channels because all the other nearby routers are jumping channels too.

That and older devices forcing wifi 6 routers into wifi 4 or 5 mode

Thanx for the Info... just a couple of Follow-Up Questions:

Probably a silly question, but is PSVR2 for PS3s? I'm playing on a computer.

Also... when you say Quest is at the Mercy of WiFi... what does that mean? I have to connect to my games on my computer via WiFi with Quest? I currently have lousy WiFi, however...it's getting updated Friday (New Provider) @500mb/s (I believe)... but I can go upto 1g/s if necessary.

PSVR2 works on both the PS5 and with Steam VR. It's a great headset, especially if you have a PS5 and can use it with both that and Steam.

PSVR2 is wired, which I prefer b/c there is no compression. It also has an OLED screen, so you get much better color and depth b/c of the colors. But the resolution is not quite as good as a Quest 3 (it's close, but not there). It also has a smaller sweet spot, but once you get used to wearing that headset, that's not really an issue.

Pluses for the Quest 3 are that it's wireless, has better resolution, and the lenses mean you don't have to learn to use the sweet spot like with other headsets.

So it really comes down to preference. Which of those things is more important to you; that will help you decide if you choose between PSVR2 or Q3.
tyl0413 21 Aug @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by Raell:
Originally posted by tyl0413:
Not Quest if you don't wanna tear all your hair out with getting it connected to PC and having constant disconnects mid game. Maybe you should say what you have rn and what issues so that maybe someone can suggest fixes than buy a new headset for no good reason.

So you're applying your own personal experience to every single person who has a Quest? Weird logic... I've had no issues.
Look on reddit, its full of complaints, supposedly the latest updates broke it even further.
This is why people always keep going "but the Quest has exclusives" when asked about advantages, because if you're using it just for PCVR and nothing else its really not that good, I looked at the store, theres nothing Im interested in that doesn't have a higher fidelity and cheaper version on Steam + I wouldn't trust any of those purchases to stay a decade later, I mean the hardware is fine, but the terrible software ruins the experience so much it doesn't matter when you wanna throw it after it constantly disconnects and stuff. They could make it so you don't even need to power the crappy Quest OS on and it just becomes directly connect DisplayPort when you plug in the cable like that (hopefully one day someone manages to jailbreak it and add that functionality, also I think the HTC standalone does something similar in case you really want a standalone for some reason) but obviously then they can't do all their tracking ♥♥♥♥ push their crap store on you which is the entire point of the Quest, if people used it properly and only used it for PCVR they would've shut down long ago. The only "ecosystem" I care about is Steam (and PC mods and custom content and stuff), everything that stands between that is an annoying roadblock I don't wanna deal with. Quest is a console, PCVR sets are PCs, some people don't wanna deal with the stupid lockdown of consoles or complexity of PC except in this case the unnecessary complexity is on the Quest (and other standalone headsets) due to the lockdown while PCVR is more plug and play.
OP is right that their headset is defective if its not immediately showing SteamVR, what im saying is my and apparently millions of other peoples Quests sold as defective from the factory that you need to perform this often up to hour long ritual of restarting everything multiple times, replugging the cable 30 times and praying that its finally gonna connect to PC, except its even worse than it being a defect because its done intentionally to promote their own store, and there is no fix, there are no refunds, too bad if you got tricked.
First I'd like to Sincerely thank everyone for their input... and such great information. Just as an FYI I am going to go with the Quest 3; and Hope my experience will be better than Tyl0413. To be honest, I kind of like the sound of the PSVR2, but I don't have a PlayStation... I only use PC. But also... I like the Wireless aspect of the Quest (I wasn't even aware any VR was Wireless; that was kind of the Sell Point for me). Playing with the index HeadSet was always a bit of a chore dealing with that Cable. I had considered getting one of those Pulley Rigs, but I don't trust myself to install it properly (and suddenly I have a hole in the Ceiling). But also... I just ordered the KAT Walk C2 Plus Enhanced (And YES... I'm Bragging - LoL; Actually, just excited). In any case, I can imagine how bad the Cable would interfere with that.

In any case... this information Truly helped me to make a Decision; and as this is a decision it will be difficult to undue, I really appreciate the Help!!!!

Good Looking Out Mates!!!
tyl0413 21 Aug @ 8:19am 
PSVR2 does work on PC, you do not need a PlayStation 5 to use it in case that wasn't clear, good luck with the Quest, buy a replacement strap (the stock is beyond uncomfortable) and be sure to have a good router if you're doing wireless.
RatBoggles 21 Aug @ 12:11pm 
i'd just buy a headset meant for pc lol theres wireless options

edit: it's too late, another quest kid has joined the lobby
Last edited by RatBoggles; 21 Aug @ 12:12pm
Originally posted by Raell:
Originally posted by tyl0413:
Not Quest if you don't wanna tear all your hair out with getting it connected to PC and having constant disconnects mid game. Maybe you should say what you have rn and what issues so that maybe someone can suggest fixes than buy a new headset for no good reason.

So you're applying your own personal experience to every single person who has a Quest? Weird logic... I've had no issues.

I concur, the wireless and the ability to play Quest games only is also good option for when i don`t want to switch on the PC.

for people who haven't tried the quest 3, I do love the cross buy on the meta store, buy the quest 3 standalone game and get the steam version free. Best of both worlds.
I use the BoBo head strap, fits like fluffy little kittens.
I just got the Quest 3, but haven't even opened the package yet. However... the GREATEST Feature of the Quest 3 wasn't even mentioned. I can only assume that (especially for Quest users) this is just taken for granted at this point. But I was not aware that the Quest 3 is completely Stand-Alone. It doesn't require a computer. I get the Wireless part... but I thought that just meant it connected to the Computer Wirelessly. When the sales person was explaining this to me I was like a kid on Christmas. Now... I can't wait to get started.

My WiFi can be Wonky... I can goes days uninterrupted... then suddenly Spotty connections at best. But other than that; I So Excited :D

Oh... and I did get the Replacement Strap... seemed better to be Safe than Sorry :)
Last edited by Skorne Tet'Zu; 21 Aug @ 2:28pm
Well, I'm definitely not as happy as I was a few hours ago :(.

The Quest 3 Looks Great ... Works Great. If asked... I would recommend it; however, I haven't actually played a Good Game with it yet :(. I played one game, which came with it. These little Tribbles tore up my house... it was soooo Awesome. I'm confident When and IF I'm actually able to play a game (like No Man's Sky or SkyrimVR) I'm going to love it. But while I would recommend it... it comes with a couple of Warnings.

1) The HeadSet battery only last for a couple of hours (2-1/2 Unofficially). I tend to game 6 to 12 hours a day. 2 hours is a bad joke. I did, however, order a HeadBand Battery Pack with one Battery and Hot Swapping. A Dual Batter Charger with one Battery. And then a Single Battery. I figured I've got the HeadSet for 2 hours, then one battery for (they claim 135% of HandBand Power), and while I'm using one battery, I've got 2 charging. Hopefully this will allow Non-Stop Game Play. But the cost of the extra accessory was a bit depressing ;(.

2) And this is actually a Bigger issue than the Battery. I can't seem to access my Steam Games. Based on what the Sales Guy told me, I was under the impression I'd be able to load the Steam App into the Quest HeadSet, then (with my Account) just run my games per normal, but inside of Quest. But apparently I misunderstood. I'm now looking at instructions about PC Apps, Meta Quest Apps, Steam Links, Air Links, and a bunch of other stuff I barely understand. :`(.

Regarding one above, I'm mostly just Whining. However... Regarding two above: if anyone can guide me to some 'Very Simple' "For Dummies" instructions on how to do whatever they are suggesting... I'd truly appreciate it. If it helps: Steam resides on a PC connected wirelessly to a WiFi Router; (which, based on one error message I got, may be an issue.) My Quest is connected to... ???I"m not sure what??? via the same router. I noted one instruction that stated my Steam PC and Quest had to be on the Same WiFi.

In truth, I'd be fine with just Re-Buying my games via Quest, but they don't have any games I'm familiar with; No Man's Sky, SkyrimVR, X-ReBirthVR, Tales of Glory, etc. etc..

In any case... any help would be Greatly Appreciated!!
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